Reposting Johanna Olson-Kennedy's Disturbing Quotes from a 2017 Conference After NYT Exposes Her Research Study Suppression for Political Reasons

Gender Clinicians are not the Friends of LGB Human Rights Interests

Yesterday, the New York Times published an article about Johanna Olson-Kennedy’s National Institute of Health funded research project studying gender dysphoric minors.

“U.S. Study on Puberty Blockers Goes Unpublished Because of Politics, Doctor Says

The leader of the long-running study said that the drugs did not improve mental health in children with gender distress and that the finding might be weaponized by opponents of the care.

Gender Health Query is the medical and queer theory watchdog project on The Homoarchy LGB website. It features many quotes from this doctor, who is one of the most extreme advocates for the affirmative model- unquestioned, enthusiastic support for socially and medically transitioning gender dysphoric minors. You can find some of them in these sections:

4. Affirmative model mental health professionals & doctors, & statements suggesting lack of concrete knowledge of long-term safety, & effects on desistance

16. Trans rights, affirmative model advocates, acceptability of false positives

Here are videos examining Olson’s activism:

“Gender Clinicians Are Not Our Friends: Johanna Olson-Kennedy & The Heinous Act Of Neutering Tweens”

“Gender Clinicians Are Not Our Friends: Johanna Olson-Kennedy Says Just Get Faux Meat Parts Later”

Olson’s most egregious comment is when she stated that a woman who transitions as a teen and regrets her underage double mastectomy can go get breast implants later.

Here is an example of a young woman Olson treated at LA Children’s Hospital who indeed regrets transitioning as a minor under Dr. Olson’s care and the loss of her breasts. It’s worth watching.

We are recirculating some of Johanna Olson-Kennedy’s quotes from a 2017 Gender Odyssey conference on Substack because some of these are noteworthy but have not received the same attention as some of the others.

EXCERPTS: GENDER ODYSSEY CONFERENCE, SEATTLE 8/23-8/27, 2017 ATTENDED BY USPATH/WPATH & KAISER PERMANENTE MEMBERS

https://archive.is/K6BVm

Here audio from a the 2017 conference is provided to indicate the policies and worldviews of health professionals who practice the affirmative care model for childhood and adult gender dysphoria. They often do not follow the standards of evidence-based medicine. These cases are similar in their extremism to cases reviewed in the WPATH Files released by Mia Hughes on Micheal Shellenberger’s project Environmental Progress.

*Dates retained in audio file names

Access audio files below. Audio involving talks given to parents is not posted here, rather relevant quotes from the health professionals are transcribed.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dewBuW4bzx0ECoypHpNGJpGM3TmqOhcN?usp=share_link

TALKS BY JOHANNA OLSON-KENNEDY

20170823_olson_blockers1

20170823_olson_blockers2

VIOLATING REPORTING SUICIDE GUIDELINES / MISREPRESENTING IT

20170823_oslon_blockers1 (3:30-4:05)

Shows a slide of people who have killed themselves and that the list is growing.

“This is one reason why I do this work, so young people are not added to this slide. It is really still happening and that’s all very real. And as a lot of people go on their nonsensical rages how being trans is trendy people are dying and that’s real.”

DESTRUCTION OF SEXUAL FUNCTION APPEARING AN AFTERTHOUGHT

Audio File: 20170823_olson_blockers2, (7:00-9:15)

“Now how many people here saw the episode of Jazz where she went to the surgeon and the surgeon was like, “You can’t have a vagina, ugg. For folks who didn’t see it, for people with testicles who are blocked in tanner stage 2, they do not have a lot of penile tissue, and when you do a procedure that you use the tissue of the penis to make a neovagina, um usually you would just do an inversion and use that tissue but if you don’t have a lot you need to do graft from another part of the body, usually scrotal tissue. There are other ways that people do this, does not preclude you from having a vaginoplasty but I want people to think about this…

We have to think about these things. Right? Blocking is one tool that’s an awesome tool for a lot of people. And what does that mean? Does that mean that trans feminine, trans girls who get blocked in tanner 2, we are we are making the assumption that all of them are going to have genital surgery? Are we doing that? Because we might be doing that. [Laughs nervously] I’m just saying we might be doing that. And so that actually is worthy of a conversation. Because many trans women do not have genital surgery. Love their genitals, enjoy their genitals, like to use them. That’s fantastic. We love people who love their bodies and use them and enjoy them. That’s a great human place to be. But we have to ask ourselves if you have tanner 2 male genitals are you going to be able to use them? Are you going to want to use them? Or we are we, just assuming that everybody is now going to have to say, ‘Well I either need to go through puberty to get adult sized genitals or I’m going to have these genitals that I have or I’m getting surgery.’ 

Does that make sense? If we are judging the success of vaginoplasty by post-surgical orgasm how do we know people are having orgasms prior to surgery if we are blocking them at tanner 2?”

*Short clip publicly available here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M_Gva6JSsAk3-6AKksLc-m5OaMZulTKF/view

*Context 4thwave ICYI:
https://4thwavenow.com/2018/07/08/does-prepubertal-medical-transition-impact-adult-sexual-function/

20170825_olson_blockers_parents_same_as_8_23_talk (54:40-54:45)

*Repeats Jazz story when told “she couldn’t have a vagina” in parents’ talk.

"Wasn’t that terrifying? I thought it was really unfortunate.”

ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THIS IS EXPERIMENTATION ON MINORS

20170826_olson_parent_q&a_over12 (23:42-24:11) 

“We don’t have enough data to know what happens with growth spurts for people when they go on T. It’s just all over the place right now. And so, I think once we have a better idea of that or we collect all of this data together, we are going to say ‘Hey, it turns out if you’re within a certain amount of time of menarche you can induce a male growth spurt,’ then we will probably make different decisions around testosterone and blockers.” 

20170826_olson_parent_q&a_over12 (18:21-19:00) (audio not made public due to parents)

Response to a parent question. Question is hard to hear but something about a female youth on Lupron and “going into severe depression.” (17:16)

“I think it’s, that’s like hashtag this whole field. Right? It’s super difficult because there isn’t enough data. And that you know, we rely on clinical experience of people doing this work. So I mean, so many of these things I learned after putting hundreds of- So I think, I think we’ve blocked about 160 kids in our practice. Um and so I do think that the other piece isn’t necessarily blaming it all on menopausal symptoms, but also remembering that there is a psychosocial impact of being in puberty purgatory.”

20170825_olson_blockers_parents_same_as_8_23_talk (1:10:45-1:11:38)

“If you now block, you go back to that prepubertal bone density accrual. And at the time that you add on cross-sex hormones your bone density is going to be relatively lower compared to your peer group. Right? Which makes sense because they’ve been going along with the pubertal bone density rate. So, this is an important thing, this is why we keep track of bone density, both at baseline, and as people are on blockers. We have shown in some preliminary studies that bone density starts up again, when, accrual starts back up again when cross-sex hormones are added on. We still need a lot of information is the reality. We don’t have all the information, but what has preliminarily been shown is that bone density starts to accrue again at a pubertal rate when you add on hormones. But what that also means is, is it’s probably not a good idea to block somebody at nine and wait until sixteen to give them hormones…”

20170825_olson_blockers_parents_same_as_8_23_talk (51:20-51:24)

“There is no test to show somebody’s gender.”

EXTREME HORMONAL EFFECTS

20170823_olson_blockers2 (29:00-30:03)

“Emotional lability. This is really common with blockers. Um, I wouldn’t say that it’s like, I would say it’s not uncommon. I’ve had a handful of people who um when they go on blockers they have a period of time where they are really emotionally labile they can have mood swings they can have behavioral changes. Part of it, and it’s important to realize the mechanism related to this because if you go back to this diagram when you give someone an analog of something, you’re going to flood them with the message to make more of their endogenous hormones.

If their endogenous hormones feel really yucky and wrong for them they’re probably going to feel bad in that first 4 to 6 weeks so always saying if your kid is experiencing suicidality or depression you want to have do you want to have an eagle eye on that kid for that first time period. So emotional lability weight gain some kids gain weight.

If their endogenous hormones feel really yucky and wrong for them they’re probably going to feel bad in that first 4 to 6 weeks so always saying if your kid if your kid is experiencing suicidality or depression you want to have do you want to have an eagle eye on that kid for that first time period. So emotional lability.

Weight gain- Some kids gain weight. It’s usually the kids who start out a little bit heavier. It’s very similar to the like the Ortho Evra patch or Depo-Provera, if you start out. I mean my peanut kids like rarely will gain weight. Just, just unfortunate.”

20170823_olson_blockers2 (30:17-31:02)

“OK, here’s another thing. If you practice a model where you don’t start hormones until sixteen and you put a 14-year-old trans boy on blockers you are putting them in menopause which you just have to understand that that is going to potentially be a train wreck. Right? So, I mean menopause is bad enough when you’re menopause age but when you are fourteen and you are having hot flashes and memory problems and insomnia and you just feel like crap, like and you’re 14, that’s a terrible combination. This is really common. There’s this expectation of like, “Oh I have this kid and he’s a total train wreck and I put them on blockers and why is he doing so bad?” Well because he’s in [giggles] menopause.” 

Short clip publicly available here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1isyuejQO_mT_LqUkXsiNdzmCG2UOpCht/view

Context 4thwave ICYI:
https://4thwavenow.com/2018/07/08/does-prepubertal-medical-transition-impact-adult-sexual-function/

DIAGNOSTIC CRITERIA IS UNCLEAR/ MEDICALIZED NON-BINARY IDENTITIES FOR MINORS

20170823_olson_blockers2 (33:30-37:25)

“Let me tell you a story about a young person, assigned female at birth. 18 months old. Assigned female at birth, 18 months old, “I a boy.” This kid was insistent, persistent, consistent to the T. Right? And not that that is the only way you can be trans. But this kid was. This was this kids story. I’m a boy, I’m a boy. I go into my dad’s closet. I get his ties. I get his shorts. I put on his blah blah blah, want to scream, kicking screaming 3 years old. No dresses no dresses. Um so, the mom came into our program and said, “Ok fix my kid.” And the therapist was like “Oh no we are just going to see you and your husband.” [audience laughs]. And so, they are going to help their kid do a social transition, lived as a boy from three onward, uh nobody, was nondisclosed at school. And at about 8, just before this kid 9th birthday, this kid was what I call dropping gender bombs. Right, this kid had struggled because this kid loved, like American girl doll, pink sparkly UGG boots. Right? And so, I’m thinking like, "Oh this is going to be like among my myriad of gay trans boys. Right?" And so I’m just, but it’s starting for this kid, really difficult for this kid to get um, not with the girls, not with the boys. Right? This kid never had a place. Right? [mumbled] affirmed. And so I said, um, and this kid by the way had told me, ok first of all this kid said, “If I’m a trans boy and I want to wear girl’s cloths, am I a cross dresser?” [audience laughs]. “Yeah, I don’t know, are you, like?” [audience laughter] [she mumbles].

Then this kid said I think what I’m going to do is be a boy in elementary school and girl in middle school and by high school I will have a better idea of what works best for me. Sounds pretty profound, um. So, I said to this kid, “It sounds like you are ready to try on girl.” And this kid said, “Yes, I am.” And so I said, “OK let’s do the work we need to do, we went to the school. We said, “This kid’s going by birth name, female pronouns.” So, everyone thought this kid was a trans girl. Right? [audience laughs]. And the mom, but before that the mom was like “What should I do.” And I said, “Well what would we do with any kid who was going to do a gender, a physical gender transition. And she said, “Are you suggesting I take my assign female at birth, who has been living as a boy, out for a weekend as a girl and see how it goes? And I said “Yeah.” And that’s what we did. And it was great, and the kid loved it. And so, and then in the school, everyone thought it was a trans girl. Right? People would be like, “I know your secret, you have a penis”. And this kid was like. “Really, where.” [audience laughs]. So, two weeks after social transition, living as a girl calls me up, “I got a second breast bud, I need a blocker.” “Ok, why?” Tells the therapist, “I feel like a little girl dangling a little boy over the cliff and if I don’t get a blocker he will die. That’s what this nine year old said, [repeats for someone who didn’t hear]. And so, I brought the kid in and the kid in and said “Tell me about this, tell me about blockers. “Well, I just don’t know. I just don’t know!” And so, I said “Well, why do we put blockers in.” “So, I don’t get boobs” Yes, ok. So, we put a blocker in. Two years later the kid says, “I want the blocker out. I want to go through girl puberty.” “All right come in, let’s talk about it. Do you remember why we put the blocker in?” “Yes.” Why’d we put the blocker in? “So, I didn’t get boobs?” “So, what’s going on with your gender.” “I don’t know? But I want to go through girl puberty.” Ok well what if your gender lands more on boy. This is word for word. “It’s 2015 Jo who said boys can’t have boobs?” [audience laughs out loud]. Touche’, small child.” 

Goes on to say the kid said they “might not be here” if the parents hadn’t let them live as a boy.

20170823_olson_blockers2 1:23:33-1:24:49 

“There are a variety of medical interventions available for non-binary folks. Creative thinking, thinking out of the box. Trying to figure out what people want and what people don’t want. It can be challenging but it also can be really really exciting and fun in really addressing like, what are some of the things you want? How can we get them for you? What can’t we do...There’s sort of like, a lot of different things people want. I really encourage people if they are going to get hysterectomies to think about leaving an ovary or two, just because you get injection fatigue. Right? “I really like testosterone, I don’t want to keep injecting myself.” You still want hormone protection. Right? And your ovaries are still going to make estrogen. So I think that’s important. Maybe T for a year. Maybe a central blocker plus low dose T. These are all possibilities. Maybe no medical intervention at all. Non-binary assigned males maybe Spyro only. Maybe feminizing hormones for just a short amount of time. Maybe selective estrogen receptor modulators. Like I had a young person who could not, had, had um autism and couldn’t stand the kinesthetic feel of breasts but really liked the how they looked. So, I was like, ‘What are we going to do here.’ But loved the way that estrogen made their brain feel. Right?” 

20170826_olson_parent_q&a_over12 (3:53-6:10)

Response to a parent question about a 12-year-old (female) about hormone options for an “agender” youth (2:40). JOK talks about hormone options for a while until start of this quote.

“I know testostrogen um [audience laughs]. So, there, there are some options. I think it’s challenging because you do need a certain, you you need to have sex steroids for bone protection and probably a lot of other things that we are not nearly as clued in about as we need to be. But uh, so certainly there’s going to come a time and for the young people in my practice I get, I, I hesitate to have people on just blockers in that age range for more than two years. Although I think you still can do that and I mean certainly we use blockers in adult populations for longer than two years. But I do worry about their bone density. 

There are things that people can do, and it will largely depend on how your child wants to wear their gender. So, a lot of times um, my non-binary kids, who don’t mostly, my assigned females at birth who don’t identify as in the binary, they preferred to be misgendered as male than female. Um, and some people have chosen to do testosterone for a year and then stop. Some people have chosen to do very low dose to see how it makes them feel and make a decision if they want to continue on it or not. Some kids they just simply have to come off of blockers and go through some more of their endogenous puberty to say ‘oh no, I don’t want this, this is bad.’ And then some kids are like, ‘Aaahh, it’s ok,’ you know. At some point your kid is going to have to make a choice which is really hard. I I I imagine that must be really really difficult. But I also imagine this is not going to be um. It’s probably unlikely that your young person is going to want to be on perpetual blockers. That’s my guess.”

20170823_olson_blockers2 (45:30-45:57)

“The harder piece is when non-binary kids want to be on blockers forever. And you’re like you can’t do that ‘cause hormones actually are binary. And there’s no testostrogen [audience laughs]. Right? So, it’s more complicated. So, in the back, but I. So, I get nervous around two years. Ok, if someone’s on a blocker, that they are post-pubertal and they are on it two years or more, I start to get like [nervously] oouuuhhhhhhh. You gotta make a decision here.”

20170825_olson_blockers_parents_same_as_8_23_talk (time?)

Clip about doctors as customer service agents.

see JOK_do_everything_bloody_possible.mp3 in folder for clip

It is not about you, knowing that someone is trans. It’s about you listening and believing somebody when they’re expressing their gender and doing everything in your human power to get them what they need and deserve…do everything bloody possible…

MEDICALIZING VERY YOUNG KIDS / DOWNPLAYING DESISTANCE

20170825_olson_blockers_parents_same_as_8_23_talk (55:42-55:49)

“So, on average most of the trans masculine kids I block are on average ten. And the girls are eleven or twelve.”

20170823_olson_blockers2 (47:51-48:21)

“Identity formation is the major task of adolescence and the urge for what is true about the self is the driving force behind many commitments behind identity. Gender is not part of that. I really want to be clear about this. We are born with our gender. When we come to know if it’s different than our assigned sex at birth is variable depending on the person to person. But it’s not a thing! That teenagers go, ‘I might be a different gender.’ That’s not a thing. That’s not a thing that all adolescents experience.”

20170826_olson_parent_q&a_under12 (13:30-16:38)

*Response to audience member asking how many kids with a DSM diagnosis would desist in the past. 

“So, there hasn’t been in the past 30 or so years a study that has asked that exact question. But if you go back into the literature and you look at the older data it’s a little bit more difficult because the criteria were different and so, um, the question would be slightly different.  I think it’s, in my practice and I’m certainly going to caveat this by saying for sure I have a skewed population. Right? Because I’m a medical provider and I don’t know that people, that I am people’s first stop. You know so this is why I think this is really important for people to understand is that, um we focus a lot of, and I’ve been talking about this the whole weekend like, or the whole week, that we focus a lot of our attention on sort of the landing spot. And not as much on meeting that kid where they are in the, in the space that they are at in the present. And so, I, I think while it-it might be interesting to ask the question how many kids who meet DSM diagnostic criteria go on to have trans identities, that might be an interesting or useful question but I think um, it sets up a false paradigm for a lot of reasons. The first is that you can’t have the diagnosis unless you have distress. So, that means that perhaps the first time you go into care with a professional at seven let’s say, and you have a lot of distress because you haven’t socially transitioned yet, you’re going to meet diagnostic criteria. Because uh, in order to have that you have to have that category B of functional impairment related to distress. But what happens if you socially transition and two years later you come back in and you don’t have functional distress. You don’t, you no longer have a diagnosis. So if you’re encountering somebody asking that research question, uh er, they’re not going to have the diagnosis. So, what used to happen when they looked at research was people were categorized as sub threshold and threshold. So, you had enough of the criteria to get a diagnosis or you were sub threshold you had some of the criteria but not all of them. Right? And so, I think it’s just a really really problematic question. I think the questions that Kristina Olson is asking in her project are probably the more useful questions. What is, what is the function and mental health of youth who are supported in a gender role that matches for them? So, it’s a very difficult question. And nobody has ever asked that pure question that you’re, that you’re asking right there. Now certainly in the data kids who reach threshold for that diagnosis are far more likely to carry-on with a trans identity. So, there is something about those diagnostic criteria, as silly as some of them are, that are predictive of people um, having a trans identity in adolescence.”

20170823_olson_blockers2 (32:42-33:29)

“I have had 2 kids in my practice who started blockers and chose not to continue blockers. Ok, and I want to talk about them because this is a common question. People will say, um, ‘Why is the data show, see the data shows that almost everybody who goes on blockers continues onto cross sex hormones. See we are making em trans.’ No no really. That’s real, not kidding! People say that. Someone said that at Amsterdam. We don’t know why all of the kids who went on blockers went on hormones. Because they’re trans [audience laughs]. Like there’s something really complex. You’re over thinking it. So I want to talk about, could people, is it possible, that people might make a different decision?” 

*Proceeds to tell the story of a female child socially transitioned very young (3) as boy. Kid is all over the map, later liking very girly things. It is long but may be worth a listen as it highlights their willingness to indulge serious confusion in young people, and medicalize it if requested, and act like going back and forth with meds is no big deal. She gives the kid a blocker at one point, takes it out later.  Last quote after describing much confusion in this child, the kid says, “It’s 2015, Jo, who says boys can’t have boobs.”

Placed this story in the “Diagnostic criteria is unclear” section as well.

20170824_olson_aydin_professional_q&a (2:28-5:46)

Audience member- “I would like to hear where is the data regarding detransition and regrets. I get asked these questions all the time. Where is the data? I saw your very good presentation this morning about chest surgery and the number of patients who regret that or don’t think that that was right thing to do. Is there any other data? Where are these people who are making so much noise.”

JOK-…“the language that you sometimes hear are like, persisters and desisters around childhood. So, there is a body of data that comes out of the seventies and eighties, primarily out of Toronto and Ken Zucker’s clinic that asks the question, and I’m just going to simplify it because it’s easier to distill it. It asked the question how many boys who are wanting to wear dresses in childhood go on to be trans-identified. That’s the real question. Right? So if you were assigned male at birth and you wanted to play with dolls and act effeminate and then you didn’t want to do that, sort of in adolescence you are considered a desister. And if you have a gender identity of something different than male you are considered to be a persister. It’s not my language. I hate it, I think it’s horrible. But uh, there’s, so that data that showed well you know most of the people that were assigned male, they were boys who wanted to wear girl’s cloths, actually were not anything but male.”

Audience member- “They were boys who wanted to wear girls’ cloths.”

JOK- “Boy’s wanting to wear girls’ cloths. Exactly! 

But unfortunately, and so, it’s important to recognize that in that data, the, all of the people that were studied were prepubertal. They were children. They were not having medical intervention. And so nobody was suggesting medical intervention. Nobody was getting surgery. Nobody was, none of that was happening. Only talking about, pretty much, children, who boys wanted to look like girls, or act like girls, or play with girls’ things or wear clothes that girls would wear, blah blah blah. 

So that data though is a meme for the noise about why young people should not go through any medical interventions, either puberty blocking or hormones. So, is it bad data? I mean you could argue all data has problems. Right?

But the issues around this particular body of data is that the question is, it’s not just one study. Like it’s a handful of studies. Right? And so the question is different, and how you measure gender dysphoria is different, and how/what the follow up time period is, is different. And the nature of the fact that the clinic kind of practiced a reparative model impacts the data. So, there is a lot of stuff that makes it not very useful in many, many ways. Except as a tool against the community.” 

Desistance research studies contradict above:
Do children & teens with serious gender dysphoria ever desist from the dysphoria?

PRESSURING PARENTS TRANSITION THEIR KIDS

20170823_olson_blockers2 (48:30-49:52)

“Some present with a prolonged history of gender dysphoria but the absolute hardest are the twelve to fourteen year old trans boys coming out to their parents…they came out like two months ago, and what happens? At nine years old something doesn’t feel right. I’m starting puberty, I’m doing all this work, I’m going online, I found 750,000 YouTube videos “this is me one month on T;” I’m connected to my community; I know I’m trans; I’m now twelve years old and I absolutely have to tell my parents and now my parents are here and I’m here [points far away]

And because I’m thirteen you need to get on the ball and this needs to have happened yesterday and because I am here and my parents are here [far away]. And the parent desperately wants you as the professional to close that gap and by pushing their kid backwards. Right? But you as a professional know that you have to close that gap by pushing the parents forward. And keeping them. You have to keep them because they have to give consent and you want them to be supportive. That’s the best possible outcome. Right? So that is a sticky wicket. You have to work hard to learn how to do this. And the more you do it, the better you will get at it.”

Short clip publicly available here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q_yGwZnVoMjFWxF1nYkoGuLdl7OrnXaG/view

NO “GATEKEEPING”

20170823_olson_blockers2 (32:22-32:45)

“We do not practice a gatekeeper model, um, in my facility. We do all of the discussion ourselves. And we um, I am going to talk about our model in a minute. If you do practice a gatekeeper model, I strongly advise you to reconsider that. And why you’re doing it.”

LACK OF CONCERN FOR LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES OF QUICK FIX

20170824_olson_aydin_professional_q&a (22:07-22:14)

“Let’s think about where you are and how we can help you function the best right now.” 

SOCIAL INFLUENCE ON TRANS ID NOT POSSIBLE FOR MINORS

20170823_olson_blockers2 (56:13-57:56)

“Trans is trendy, right everybody? Everyone’s trans at my kid’s school. [audience laughs]. People say that. All my kid’s friends are trans. That’s why they are saying they are trans. [Audience member “Because they are they cool ones.” Laughter]. And It’s so trendy and rewarding. Um, and so then people say like, ‘I don’t understand it? I mean like um my kid was best friends with this kid in elementary school and now they are both trans.’ We have a whole perpetual cart/horse conversation. So gender bending is trendy. Gender bending is trendy! It is awesome, that young people are participating in a movement to remove the nonsensical relationship with the binary. It is not useful for youth. And they are participating in it. And in solidarity with trans folks and their friends they are gender bending with expression and identity. And that is great and gender bending kids are not in distress. They are not talking about needing to go to the doctor. They are not talking about self-harm or experiencing it or practicing it. They are not talking about suicide. They are pushing the society to get rid of something that is no longer useful, and is painful and hurtful to a lot of folks. That’s a really important distinction. Your kid might have a lot of friends who might be gender bending and in solidarity your kid might have friends who are trans, who have gender dysphoria. But those are not always the same thing. Like, your kid, your kid is not going to be made accidentally trans by their friends.” 

DENIAL OF RISK TO LGB YOUTH

20170823_olson_blockers1 (23:50-24:00)

“I like how transgender people don’t see themselves as gay when they obviously are, as in like it, I mean I hate it. Because they are a group of liars.“

20170824_olson_aydin_professional_q&a (2:30-5:49)

Snippet:
”…The issues around this particular body of data is…the question is different, and how you measure gender dysphoria is different, and what the follow up time period is, is different, the nature of the fact that the clinic kind of practiced a reparative model impacts the data. So, there is a lot of stuff that makes it not very useful in many, many ways. Except as a tool against the community.”

QUEER THEORY / GENDER IDEOLOGY

20170823_oslon_blockers1 (7:03-7:10)

Johanna Olson-Kennedy says she created the gender abacus, not Bill Nye.

20170823_oslon_blockers1 (14:35:14:14:50)

Sexual Orientation and gender identity is conflated, mixing of gay and trans (she’s exasperated by this).

20170823_oslon_blockers1 (15:40-16:50)

Story about using the gender abacus to help inform decisions about how to medicalize youth. The abacus is a diagnostic tool.

20170823_oslon_blockers1 (17:35-18:00)

“I still review scientific papers that use language like natal female or biologic male or things like that. And that’s inappropriate language. And it negates the idea that biology is much more comprehensive than people see it as.”

LARGE NUMBERS OF TRANS-IDENTIFIED YOUTH AT LA CHILDREN’S HOSPITAL

20170823_oslon_blockers1 (4:30)

Her clinic (2017) had “We just under 1000 active patients now, between 3 and 25.” 

20170823_oslon_blockers1 (6:00-6:35)

An increase in trans masculine experience across all clinics (65% females at her clinic). Nonbinary going up.

20170826_olson_parent_q&a_over12 (18:20)

“There isn’t enough data, we rely on clinical data. We’ve blocked about 160 kids”

UPDATE 1/7/25: Added one quote (“as a tool against”)